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By fluffy (Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 03:59:26 AM EST) (all tags)

Apparently there's no more conversations being written, either. I was just at my brother-in-law's birthday party, and a conversation I overheard between my sister and a few of her friends was nearly identical to a conversation I listened to in a car between MillMan, S, and Driusan.

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Correction. by Driusan (2.00 / 0) #1 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 09:49:28 AM EST

A conversation between Millman, S, Driusan, R343L, and fluffy.
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I don't recall R343L talking much in that one by fluffy (2.00 / 0) #11 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 05:16:18 PM EST

and I know I had nothing to actually add.
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: well .. by R343L (2.00 / 0) #13 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 09:20:11 PM EST

I did contribute enthusiasm ... does that count?

"it's been a long time since i let self doubt keep me from doing anything. much to the chagrin of those who have to observe the consequences." -- 256
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Glitch in the Matrix (nt) by ucblockhead (4.00 / 1) #2 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 10:44:23 AM EST

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You know what's strange about drugs? by blixco (4.00 / 1) #3 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 01:33:21 PM EST

People like drugs. That's not strange, though; their heads, their brains have all these receptor bits that are well-liked by the drugs they take. People are genetically designed to enjoy drugs.

The strange part is that people who take drugs want to express the experience with their illegal, immoral, and otherwise shifty behavior.

If you were to, say, rape someone, would you go around yakking about it? Probably not no matter how trippy the experience was, even if it made Radiohead sound really fantastic.

It's not something that comes up in conversation. "Yeah, that last time I stole a car it was like, whoa."

Just never made sense to me.
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I think by ni (4.00 / 1) #5 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 03:22:57 PM EST

it's because it's seen to be dangerous and illegal (and perhaps most crucially, rebellious), without genuinely being immoral. Rape and car theft aren't attractive: the rebellion inherent in the act is outweighed by the assholishness inherent in it. Drugs allow the speaker (among some groups of people) to have their cake and eat it too. Drugs are often seen as a foolish choice, but not an immoral one. They are dangerous to you without being harmful to others (or so goes the perception).

I was at this party once with this guy who was prone to committing armed robbery. The other people are the party were mainly similar sorts of people (albeit not to this degree). Sure enough, a few hours in the stories came out, done in the same over the top casually absurd style that drug stories come in. (And I am not innocent of this myself, of course.)

It's not that armed robbery was thought to be a good thing by the people there, or even that it wasn't thought to be a bad thing: I'm sure that, were they sober and asked about, and given time to think about it, they would all agree that the world would be better without armed robberies. But armed robbery was something that happened from time to time in a person's life (because they needed to; because had made bad decisions; because they were drunk) and it wasn't something you were judged on. The attitude was a morally neutral one, although in this case (unlike drugs, I think) not because the listeners of these stories honestly thought armed robbery a neutral act, but because they did not earnestly apply moral reasoning to it at all. Armed robbery just happened, the thinking went, and man, it sure could lead to some surreal situations.

Unusual, seemingly rebellious experiences make us seem interesting (often more interesting than we are), and drugs provide a vehicle for them without (in the eyes of most) being guilty of serious moral wrongdoing of any real caliber. This despite these experiences being, given any serious thought, shallow and insubstantial.

Or so it seems to me.

"What woman wouldn't love a guy in WW2 aviator glasses eating their ass?" -- dest
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haflinger told me that by muchagecko (2.00 / 0) #6 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 03:36:52 PM EST

Nova Scotia was a rough place. I guess he wasn't exaggerating.

"It means more if you have to earn it, even if it's by doing something as simple as eating a meal." Kellnerin
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The thing about drugs by Linus Trollvalds (2.00 / 0) #8 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 04:56:50 PM EST

"Drugs are often seen as a foolish choice, but not an immoral one. They are dangerous to you without being harmful to others (or so goes the perception)."

Is that the person doing the drugs has their mood and perceptions altered so that they cannot see the harm that they are doing to everyone else in their life, nor the damage to their brain and body either. Be it illicit drugs, or legal ones like alcohol and tobacco, there are always side-effects that harm the user and the people in their lives. Some of the side-effects are changes in the behavior of the drug user that causes them to become mean to others or just not care about others anymore. Most of the time it is emotional or psychological abuse by the drug user on their friends, family, and co-workers, or their friends, family, or co-workers have to clean up the messes the drug user makes. For co-workers it means they have to work harder to cover for the drug-users at their job, who messed things up because they couldn't think clearly enough to do their job correctly. Of course the drug user doesn't see any of this and claims there are no side-effects and they didn't harm anyone, and often play the victim when others confront them about what the drug-user did to them to cause them to suffer.

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Oh! by ni (2.00 / 0) #9 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 05:05:08 PM EST

"What woman wouldn't love a guy in WW2 aviator glasses eating their ass?" -- dest
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: I'm just stating the obvious by Linus Trollvalds (2.00 / 0) #14 Mon Dec 03, 2007 at 07:02:54 AM EST

nevermind!

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You know what is strange about by Linus Trollvalds (2.00 / 0) #7 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 04:51:13 PM EST

bad behavior and bad actions, is that it makes the people that do them feel good about doing them. That is because pleasure receptors in the brain are triggered by pain and suffering as well as real pleasure. Even if one causes their own pain and suffering, it gets them feeling high.

The first being to notice this was Satan, everyone else is just a Satan copycat. Just saying is all.

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Lots of people by ucblockhead (2.00 / 0) #12 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 05:20:44 PM EST

Think drug use is not immoral and should be legal.
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hey fluffy by MillMan (4.00 / 2) #4 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 02:43:31 PM EST

everybody's doing it.

When I'm imprisoned as an enemy combatant, will you blog about it?

: Patently untrue. by Driusan (4.00 / 1) #10 Sun Dec 02, 2007 at 05:11:35 PM EST

Only the cool kids are doing it.
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